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2 years 8 months ago #4600 by nxtkitt
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At 6 seconds there should be a guy saying "What the heck is going on out there". That's the first dropped dialogue. There's more, but I'm the first example should be enough? I also included the Pro Tools screen grab from my audio guy -
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2 years 8 months ago #4595 by Graeme Robinson
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Can you please attach your fcpxml and describe where on the timeline (timecode) we should expect to see this problem?

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2 years 9 months ago #4592 by nxtkitt
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I also have this issue. Using FCPX 10.3, on El Capitan 10.11.6 and X2Pro 4.0.10
After TONS of trial and error and borrowing a friend's ProTools, I found that the issue was prevalent in dialogue clips that were created from syncing the video clip with external audio clip using FCP's SYNC USING AUDIO. BUT, not all clips did it. My workflow: After I sync the two, it makes a 'Sync'd Clip' which I use in the timeline. But since the camera audio (Storyline) is typically crappy, I disable it and leave the lav mic enabled (Connected-Linked Dialogue). I output an XML and reimport it into FCPX to test it. All works well, all files there. But when I use that XML for an AAF it's missing a lot of those clips. Yes, all roles are set. I even tried every combo in settings for X2PRo (uncheck discard disabled clips, reference wav files in place).

It wasn't until I REenabled every audio track that they showed up. Some STILL DIDN'T so I had to grab the audio clip (from the lav wav file, not the sync file) and match it up. I'm hoping this is a bug, because in the future I can't make the time to reenable everything and test it again before sending out. Please tell me I missed a crucial step. I'd like to keep using this program, but not if it's 'IFFY'
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2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 9 months ago #4585 by ReidN
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I figured it out.

Here's the FCXP library I used to troubleshoot.

Turns out, due to upgrading FCPX over the years, some of the selections for audio roles were not being properly maintained. Upgrading to 10.3, and moving the project over to a new library revealed which clips had that error. I just re-applied the roles, exported a new XML, and everything worked great.

Thanks for your help.
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2 years 9 months ago #4579 by James Carrick
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Dear Reidn,

Using the xml you supplied "Sanctuary_Dialogue v2.fcpxml" (which is 8,468 KB) we get the attached AAF. Can you ask your sound designer to load this AAF into his ProTools and detail a couple of the tracks that are missing.

When we process the above XML to generate the AAF there is also a list of ignored audio filters and noise reduction, which your sound designer should also be aware of..

If you could copy a smaller section of the XML that has this behaviour then would you be able to supply the XML and the essence for us ? We will provide FTP drop details, otherwise would it be possible to arrange for a copy of all of the essence to generate the whole AAF to your sound designer.

Please advise.

Yours Sincerely

James.
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2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 9 months ago #4578 by ReidN
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I have upgraded both X2Pro and FCPX to their latest versions and this is still an issue, unfortunately.



Here's a list of time codes from my sound designer with all of the sections with missing dialogue:

01:05:44:09 - 01:06:07:06
01:06:13:05 - 01:09:17:18
01:10:28:13 - 01:10:29:14
01:10:56:05 - 01:10:57:08
01:11:03:18 - 01:11:16:19
01:11:26:17 - 01:11:55:14
01:12:19:14 - 01:12:26:14
01:12:51:07 - 01:13:24:17
01:15:46:17 - 01:15:46:17
01:16:09:20 - 01:16:12:23
01:16:34:13 - 01:16:34:13
01:19:16:04 - 01:25:21:00
01:27:08:23 - 01:28:34:05
01:28:40:23 - 01:29:47:19
01:29:58:14 - 01:30:01:15
01:30:03:20 - 01:30:07:17
01:30:09:16 - 01:30:42:08
01:30:43:20 - 01:31:41:14
01:31:43:10 - 01:32:12:00
01:32:16:05 - 01:32:30:23
01:32:36:14 - 01:32:52:17
01:32:55:18 - 01:34:07:10
01:34:17:00 - 01:34:29:02
01:34:36:00 - 01:34:36:00
01:34:37:20 - 01:35:35:00
01:36:02:05 - 01:36:32:14
01:37:25:01 - 01:37:58:00
01:38:04:10 - 01:38:13:20
01:38:19:09 - 01:38:19:09
01:38:23:19 - 01:38:29:14
01:41:33:21 - 01:42:22:08
01:42:28:08 - 01:44:08:07
01:44:10:21 - 01:49:41:12
01:49:55:00 - 01:50:05:15
01:54:02:17 - 01:54:10:23 
01:54:18:19 - 01:54:33:11
01:54:57:12 - 01:54:59:21
01:55:28:20 - 01:55:41:19
01:56:21:07 - 01:56:28:06
01:56:49:01 - 02:08:15:07
02:09:30:01 - 02:10:27:13
02:10:35:01 - 02:20:44:03
02:21:59:06 - 02:22:14:06
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2 years 9 months ago #4571 by James Carrick
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Dear Reidn,

Have you upgraded X2Pro to 4.0.10, and is this still an issue ?

Please advise

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2 years 9 months ago #4541 by ReidN
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2 years 9 months ago #4532 by James Carrick
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Dear Reidn,

We cannot work out why the AAF we create here is different from the AAF you supplied, can you please advise what version of X2Pro, & OS you are using ?

Yours Sincerely and many thanks.

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2 years 9 months ago - 2 years 9 months ago #4529 by ReidN
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I'm glad to hear you got more audio to be shown on your end. Progress!

Yes, the XML supplied was the same one used to create the AAF. I'm sure I had the dialogue role enabled when I transferred it through X2Pro before. But I did not have the option to merge subroles enabled (because there were none). I don't think that would make a difference, but just in case:
Original XML: Link
New AAF (with subroles merged): Link

Thanks.
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2 years 9 months ago #4525 by James Carrick
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Dear ReidN,

If we process the XML supplied to create an AAF in PT we see the picture "lab created", if we load the AAF you supplied in PT we see the picture "ReidN created". Clearly we can see a lot more audio at 01.05.30 in our AAF than yours.

Can you please confirm that the XML supplied to us is the one you used to create the AAF. If not can you transfer this supplied XML through X2Pro to create an AAF. If you look under roles in X2Pro do you have dialogue enabled ?

Please advise.

Yours Sincerely

James
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2 years 9 months ago #4513 by ReidN
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An example of all of the dialogue being missing would be here: 01:05:39:04 - 01:05:58:12.

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2 years 9 months ago #4503 by James Carrick
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Dear Reidn,

We have raised as a ticket here, can you advise which clip are being dropped and where on the FCPX timeline. they appear.

Many thanks

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2 years 9 months ago #4499 by ReidN
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No difference.

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2 years 10 months ago #4493 by Graeme Robinson
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Is it any different if you turn off the "Discard disabled clips" option?

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