Inactive multicam angle are not referenced.
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8 years 1 month ago #4437
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jeansemeur replied the topic: Inactive multicam angle are not referenced.
Hi James,
No I haven't receive it yet.. But as i said, it's a first version, so it's not necessary to work on this one. My purpose was to ask you if you could implement a new option.
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No I haven't receive it yet.. But as i said, it's a first version, so it's not necessary to work on this one. My purpose was to ask you if you could implement a new option.
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8 years 1 month ago #4433
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James Carrick replied the topic: Inactive multicam angle are not referenced.
Dear Jean,
I believe Graeme modified your XML, would be grateful if you could advise that it went through ok. So you are aware we have raised this functionality with product management, but in the meantime if anyone does need this we will offer to modify the XML's here.
Yours Sincerely
James.
I believe Graeme modified your XML, would be grateful if you could advise that it went through ok. So you are aware we have raised this functionality with product management, but in the meantime if anyone does need this we will offer to modify the XML's here.
Yours Sincerely
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8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #4413
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jeansemeur replied the topic: Inactive multicam angle are not referenced.
Thank for all that.. It's now clear... as i said in my email, it should be really simple to implement the ability to consider unactivated (not selected) angles. A new preference option could be check to "Discard (or not) not selected angle" ;)
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The option to no "Discard disabled clips" doesn't apply to angles in multicam clips because they are not "disabled", rather they are not selected as an active angle. An example of a disabled clip would be one that has been selected and then the "v" key is pressed on the keyboard.
You have asked more questions in your email, so I'll reply to them there.
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You're right; there is no such thing as an angle in a multicam clip. What James means is that X2Pro will only put active angles from a multicam clip into the AAF (X2Pro tries to a create a sequence that will sound (when it is played in Pro Tools) just like the project when it is played in FCP X, If a multicam audio-angle is not selected in FCP X, it will not be included in the AAF. If you wanted all audio angles to be in the AAF, you need to enable all of them in FCP, or use a compound clip instead because with compound clips, X2Pro would put everything from the compound clip into the AAF (as long as it wasn't disabled).jeansemeur wrote: You say "as we do not support active angles in anything other than a compound clip"
Does a compound clip has angles ? ;)
The option to no "Discard disabled clips" doesn't apply to angles in multicam clips because they are not "disabled", rather they are not selected as an active angle. An example of a disabled clip would be one that has been selected and then the "v" key is pressed on the keyboard.
It's angleS. If there is more than one audio angle selected on a multicam clip, all selected angles should be put in the AAF.jeansemeur wrote: In your (very small) help you say "Multicam clips will be reduced to the selected angle;"
Is this "angle" or "angleS"
You have asked more questions in your email, so I'll reply to them there.
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8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #4411
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jeansemeur replied the topic: Inactive multicam angle are not referenced.
I send you a email but there is things i don't understand and that can concern all you users.:
You say "as we do not support active angles in anything other than a compound clip"
Does a compound clip has angles ? ;)
In your (very small) help you say "Multicam clips will be reduced to the selected angle;"
Is this "angle" or "angleS". . In the first case does it mean that it's impossible to export nothing else than the AV active angle and no other audio from other activated angle ???
You can "select" SEVERAL angle (audio) in a multicam !!!
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You say "as we do not support active angles in anything other than a compound clip"
Does a compound clip has angles ? ;)
In your (very small) help you say "Multicam clips will be reduced to the selected angle;"
Is this "angle" or "angleS". . In the first case does it mean that it's impossible to export nothing else than the AV active angle and no other audio from other activated angle ???
You can "select" SEVERAL angle (audio) in a multicam !!!
Thank
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8 years 1 month ago #4410
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Dear Jean,
Unfortunately, as you rightly state it will be a massive amount of work to convert all the multicam clips into compound clips (as we do not support active angles in anything other than a compound clip).
We will look into seeing whether we could pre-process your XML to essentially convert clips into compound clips, I will pop you a mail, if possible we would need a copy of the actual XML uploaded to our ftp site.
Yours Sincerely
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Unfortunately, as you rightly state it will be a massive amount of work to convert all the multicam clips into compound clips (as we do not support active angles in anything other than a compound clip).
We will look into seeing whether we could pre-process your XML to essentially convert clips into compound clips, I will pop you a mail, if possible we would need a copy of the actual XML uploaded to our ftp site.
Yours Sincerely
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8 years 1 month ago #4408
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jeansemeur replied the topic: Inactive multicam angle are not referenced.
I don't understand very well your answer.
Can you explain in more détail what's the problem for this 2 problems (inactive angle Music and active angle DRIECT not traduced in AAF).
The idea is to send a 1 hour and half film with many many multicam clips...
Can you explain how to create an XML without having to (re)activated one by one inactive component (so angles) of all multicam clip...
(In FCP X you can't select a groupe of multicam to activate all their angle. SI you have to do it one by one)...
Thank for your help...
Can you explain in more détail what's the problem for this 2 problems (inactive angle Music and active angle DRIECT not traduced in AAF).
The idea is to send a 1 hour and half film with many many multicam clips...
Can you explain how to create an XML without having to (re)activated one by one inactive component (so angles) of all multicam clip...
(In FCP X you can't select a groupe of multicam to activate all their angle. SI you have to do it one by one)...
Thank for your help...
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8 years 1 month ago #4407
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James Carrick replied the topic: Inactive multicam angle are not referenced.
Dear Jean,
We will not process anything from -03(Music) as it is not activated. The only way we can use active angles is if these are contained in a compound clip. Is it possible for you to create a compound clip and then resubmit ?
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We will not process anything from -03(Music) as it is not activated. The only way we can use active angles is if these are contained in a compound clip. Is it possible for you to create a compound clip and then resubmit ?
Yours Sincerely
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8 years 1 month ago #4401
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jeansemeur created the topic: Inactive multicam angle are not referenced.
When editing a film with mulitcam, we often uncheck some audio and keep only those who are useful for editing (check "MixR" and "MixL" for editing and uncheck "HF", BOOM" etc... )
in the XML here, i have 3 angles:
-01: audio/video clip with "DSLR" audio role (activated in configuration audio)
-02: audio/video clip with "DIRECT" audio role (activated in configuration audio)
-03 audio only clips with "MUSIC" audio role (not activated)
But when XML is open in X2Pro there's TWOo problematic things:
-A. inactive angle are not referenced by the role sub window (see image).(so no "MUSIC" audio role)
-B. the activated audio role "DIRECT" is not referenced in the sub window .
My first question is why DIRECT role is not referenced ? (it's not normal)
My second question is why "MUSIC" role is not referenced ? (there is an option in preference that enable to uncheck "discard disabled clips". So even if the angle is disable, the info IS in the XML so X2Pro should show it. And the user can either "check "discard disabled clip" or uncheck its role in the sub window "ROLE"...
in the XML here, i have 3 angles:
-01: audio/video clip with "DSLR" audio role (activated in configuration audio)
-02: audio/video clip with "DIRECT" audio role (activated in configuration audio)
-03 audio only clips with "MUSIC" audio role (not activated)
But when XML is open in X2Pro there's TWOo problematic things:
-A. inactive angle are not referenced by the role sub window (see image).(so no "MUSIC" audio role)
-B. the activated audio role "DIRECT" is not referenced in the sub window .
My first question is why DIRECT role is not referenced ? (it's not normal)
My second question is why "MUSIC" role is not referenced ? (there is an option in preference that enable to uncheck "discard disabled clips". So even if the angle is disable, the info IS in the XML so X2Pro should show it. And the user can either "check "discard disabled clip" or uncheck its role in the sub window "ROLE"...
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