Is it possible to create handles?
- Chris Steele
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We are working on v2 development right now and have the trimming of media done already. We are still planning for referenced media too as an option.
The challenges of fcpxml? Well the challenges are more about the change in paradigm from FCP-7 to FCP-X - roles rather than tracks etc. The XML itself is pretty comprehensive, though that means it is also complex.
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- 5thwall
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I used to export OMFs in FCP7 and send them to sound guys. I rarely had a problem (although I know of some people who did) I never really knew what the sound guys got, since I couldn't open the file. I would assume they just got individual clips with handles.
Exporting the OMF didn't take that long to create. I know nothing of programming, but just curious - what are the challenges when dealing with the fcpxml file?
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- Chris Steele
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I would like to ask you folks out there about trimming. An issue is that if you use multiple segments from a piece of media, should it embed those segments separately, or the as much as needed from the first to the last clip? The second option would be not helpful if you included the first and last few seconds of a 2 hour file as you would still get the whole file. The first option is difficult because we would have to create new media rather than just a trimmed version of the existing one.
Any ideas or comments?
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- 5thwall
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I've already voted - but figured I'd try again :). I've got an edit coming up where we need to ftp the aaf files to the sound mixer. Having full files makes them too large. So, if there's any way to get the aafs to have handles, that would be awesome.
Thanks again for the work you've put in on the software.
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- Chris Steele
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It would only be possible if we were to transcode the media when we copy it into the AAF. One of the reasons for copying the whole media into the AAF was to ensure that it was all there and "unadulterated" - there was little we could do to mess it up in some way.
When we get around to trimming the included media, we'll look at whether this is possible.
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- Alan Seawright
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That may not be a thing that's even possible? Maybe?
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i purchased the software today, so once i've had some more time to work with it, i'll be sure to let you know if there's anything else i'd like to see.
thanks for the product
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- Chris Steele
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You mention a "few preferences" - anything else that you would like to be able to control?
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- malcolm.che
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please implement this sooner rather than later.
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I'l give you an incentive to fast-track handles. We're a small creative shop based in Austin and evaluating FCP X. Your plugin is a crucial piece of the puzzle for us. We also generally have our mixes done off-site via upload/download. But forget about us. We used to be creative directors and senior editors at Spike TV and Nickelodeon and MTV before that all in New York City. We employed the same workflow there.
Handles are VITAL to the broadcast workflow. In reality TV, you're pulling from routinely large takes, so your source file lengths are going to be very big and the needed-size to total-size ratio will be nuts. Also, for network promos, which has been a big user of FCP and a big potential market for your product, you're dealing with an even more intense ratio. A promo may be 30 seconds, but it's pulling audio from a full 1 hour set of show episode splits. Add in the intense turn-around time and you have a desperate need to keep those upload/download AAFs reasonable. Taking 2 hours to upload a 1gig AAF for a :30 second spot isn't going to work. It's a veto factor for your otherwise excellent product.
This used to be less of a problem since producers would typically go to the audio session in town (NYC) and would thus be able to bring the files on a drive. Those days are over for many networks and shops. Even local audio is still being handled remotely because the output demands on producers and editors have risen with the new distribution platforms. So now you're uploading your picture reference and OMF/AAF for the mix even if the audio house is three blocks away, because you're moving on to cut the web version and the integrated marketing cut in time for the air date.
Our company, Emergent Order, is excited to deploy FCPX and will be frequent users of X2Pro. We're happy to provide any other feedback you need.
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I vote for the ability to create handles in the file. One of my main reasons is file size. I upload OMFs to my sound mixer quite often. I need to keep the file size to a minimum.
Last night I tested the same sequence in FCP7 and the OMF came out to 250MB. While in X, it was over 1GB. This was for a 5-minute piece.
So, if it's possible it would be a great option to have! Thanks.
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- Graeme Robinson
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