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1 year 3 weeks ago #6514 by James Carrick
James Carrick replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
Dear Ermanno,

I would suggest that wherever possible the original source media is recorded at the ftps you want to work in, in FCPX, and that if there is any retiming warnings when you create the AAF that they are passed to the ProTools engineer, so he can adjust if necessary.

Regarding the original issue, not sure how you can create an XML in FCPX that has an asset marked as both 24 and 25 fps, we tried and cannot do it here. Was the XML ever processed by another system before you imported it into FCPX ?

Thoughts ?

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1 year 3 weeks ago #6511 by ercorr
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Sorry, I followed the mixer's indications, and I was told that those clips had the same pb. but I can't get in touch with him now.
I must admit i'm a little confused (i'm working at a film at the same time) but my question would be : how do i avoid this kind of pb in the future, is there something i should do? is apple the pb?

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1 year 3 weeks ago #6509 by James Carrick
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Dear Ermanno,

Yes in the original XML an asset was marked as 25 frames but had a duration in 24 frames, however that clip wasn't in the cut down XML you sent. So I guess we are either looking at if possible the original XML and the source media that you are having issue with in ProTools (i.e. we don't need copies of the good assets in ProTools just the bad ones).

If the media is quite large we will pop you a mail with details of an ftp drop folder to drop it onto.

Yours Sincerely

James

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1 year 3 weeks ago #6508 by ercorr
ercorr replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
hi james,
i didn't noticed anything, the mixer told me there was a problem with some clips
we identified it as a 24 25 kind of pb.
then tim robson pointed out that wrong 24fps marker that protools applied.
is fcpx making the mistake?
i had a previous film which had the same kind of pb + a shift (2images late) + micro cuts in some embedded clips.
nether had that before.
thank you and the team for the prompt reply.
ermanno.

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1 year 3 weeks ago #6506 by James Carrick
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Dear Ercorr

Thanks for the two wav files and XML, if we modify the seqjavidpourX2PRO_2018-07-19.xml to point to the media we can process through X2Pro and create a 25fps session in ProTools. Where are you seeing that the audio is 24fps for the seqjavidpourX2PRO_2018-07-19.aaf ?

Many thanks

James

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1 year 1 month ago #6500 by ercorr
ercorr replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
sorry internet conection extremely slow and difficult here
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1 year 1 month ago #6499 by ercorr
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ok

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1 year 1 month ago #6498 by ercorr
ercorr replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
here are aaf and xml 1.8
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1 year 1 month ago #6497 by TimRobson
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We will need the source media (sound) to be able to re-create the export and see what is happening.

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1 year 1 month ago #6496 by ercorr
ercorr replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
i'm preparing a short version for you
are XML + AAF export enough?
need a video +sound reference export ?

i'm not able to find any marker (you mean in fcp or protools?), those are group clips, it's impossible to decompose them in the timeline.

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1 year 1 month ago #6495 by TimRobson
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How large is the project and could you crop it down to a small one that you could get to us so that we can take a look at it to make sure that our observations are correct? Talking to Apple is not a quick way to get things resolved and it is always better to be able to give them a step-by-step way to re-produce the problem. Have you tried removing the marker (or whatever that is) from the clip and seeing whether it is indeed responsible for the problem?

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1 year 1 month ago #6494 by ercorr
ercorr replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
just tried with the 1.7 xml, problems remain the same.
should I contact apple? do you consider talking to apple directly (might be more efficient)
on the second film, some other pb appear like a general shift of 2 frames from the beginning and "micro cuts", sub frame "gaps" said the mix tech

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1 year 1 month ago #6493 by ercorr
ercorr replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
No, only 1.8 for this film.
I’ll try 1.7.
On the other film I’m quite sure I used 1.7 ending with the same kind of pb.

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1 year 1 month ago #6492 by TimRobson
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It looks like it might be an error in the FCPXML, have you tried both V1.7 and V1.8 XMLs?

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1 year 1 month ago #6491 by ercorr
ercorr replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
wrong xml from fcpx?

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