25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
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5 years 4 months ago #6514
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James Carrick replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
Dear Ermanno,
I would suggest that wherever possible the original source media is recorded at the ftps you want to work in, in FCPX, and that if there is any retiming warnings when you create the AAF that they are passed to the ProTools engineer, so he can adjust if necessary.
Regarding the original issue, not sure how you can create an XML in FCPX that has an asset marked as both 24 and 25 fps, we tried and cannot do it here. Was the XML ever processed by another system before you imported it into FCPX ?
Thoughts ?
I would suggest that wherever possible the original source media is recorded at the ftps you want to work in, in FCPX, and that if there is any retiming warnings when you create the AAF that they are passed to the ProTools engineer, so he can adjust if necessary.
Regarding the original issue, not sure how you can create an XML in FCPX that has an asset marked as both 24 and 25 fps, we tried and cannot do it here. Was the XML ever processed by another system before you imported it into FCPX ?
Thoughts ?
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5 years 4 months ago #6511
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Sorry, I followed the mixer's indications, and I was told that those clips had the same pb. but I can't get in touch with him now.
I must admit i'm a little confused (i'm working at a film at the same time) but my question would be : how do i avoid this kind of pb in the future, is there something i should do? is apple the pb?
I must admit i'm a little confused (i'm working at a film at the same time) but my question would be : how do i avoid this kind of pb in the future, is there something i should do? is apple the pb?
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5 years 4 months ago #6509
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Dear Ermanno,
Yes in the original XML an asset was marked as 25 frames but had a duration in 24 frames, however that clip wasn't in the cut down XML you sent. So I guess we are either looking at if possible the original XML and the source media that you are having issue with in ProTools (i.e. we don't need copies of the good assets in ProTools just the bad ones).
If the media is quite large we will pop you a mail with details of an ftp drop folder to drop it onto.
Yours Sincerely
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Yes in the original XML an asset was marked as 25 frames but had a duration in 24 frames, however that clip wasn't in the cut down XML you sent. So I guess we are either looking at if possible the original XML and the source media that you are having issue with in ProTools (i.e. we don't need copies of the good assets in ProTools just the bad ones).
If the media is quite large we will pop you a mail with details of an ftp drop folder to drop it onto.
Yours Sincerely
James
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5 years 4 months ago #6508
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ercorr replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
hi james,
i didn't noticed anything, the mixer told me there was a problem with some clips
we identified it as a 24 25 kind of pb.
then tim robson pointed out that wrong 24fps marker that protools applied.
is fcpx making the mistake?
i had a previous film which had the same kind of pb + a shift (2images late) + micro cuts in some embedded clips.
nether had that before.
thank you and the team for the prompt reply.
ermanno.
i didn't noticed anything, the mixer told me there was a problem with some clips
we identified it as a 24 25 kind of pb.
then tim robson pointed out that wrong 24fps marker that protools applied.
is fcpx making the mistake?
i had a previous film which had the same kind of pb + a shift (2images late) + micro cuts in some embedded clips.
nether had that before.
thank you and the team for the prompt reply.
ermanno.
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5 years 4 months ago #6506
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Dear Ercorr
Thanks for the two wav files and XML, if we modify the seqjavidpourX2PRO_2018-07-19.xml to point to the media we can process through X2Pro and create a 25fps session in ProTools. Where are you seeing that the audio is 24fps for the seqjavidpourX2PRO_2018-07-19.aaf ?
Many thanks
James
Thanks for the two wav files and XML, if we modify the seqjavidpourX2PRO_2018-07-19.xml to point to the media we can process through X2Pro and create a 25fps session in ProTools. Where are you seeing that the audio is 24fps for the seqjavidpourX2PRO_2018-07-19.aaf ?
Many thanks
James
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5 years 4 months ago #6500
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sorry internet conection extremely slow and difficult here
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5 years 4 months ago #6499
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ok
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5 years 4 months ago #6498
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ercorr replied the topic: 25fps audio clips exported as 24fps
here are aaf and xml 1.8
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5 years 4 months ago #6497
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We will need the source media (sound) to be able to re-create the export and see what is happening.
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5 years 4 months ago #6496
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i'm preparing a short version for you
are XML + AAF export enough?
need a video +sound reference export ?
i'm not able to find any marker (you mean in fcp or protools?), those are group clips, it's impossible to decompose them in the timeline.
are XML + AAF export enough?
need a video +sound reference export ?
i'm not able to find any marker (you mean in fcp or protools?), those are group clips, it's impossible to decompose them in the timeline.
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5 years 4 months ago #6495
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How large is the project and could you crop it down to a small one that you could get to us so that we can take a look at it to make sure that our observations are correct? Talking to Apple is not a quick way to get things resolved and it is always better to be able to give them a step-by-step way to re-produce the problem. Have you tried removing the marker (or whatever that is) from the clip and seeing whether it is indeed responsible for the problem?
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5 years 4 months ago #6494
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just tried with the 1.7 xml, problems remain the same.
should I contact apple? do you consider talking to apple directly (might be more efficient)
on the second film, some other pb appear like a general shift of 2 frames from the beginning and "micro cuts", sub frame "gaps" said the mix tech
should I contact apple? do you consider talking to apple directly (might be more efficient)
on the second film, some other pb appear like a general shift of 2 frames from the beginning and "micro cuts", sub frame "gaps" said the mix tech
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5 years 4 months ago #6493
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No, only 1.8 for this film.
I’ll try 1.7.
On the other film I’m quite sure I used 1.7 ending with the same kind of pb.
I’ll try 1.7.
On the other film I’m quite sure I used 1.7 ending with the same kind of pb.
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5 years 4 months ago #6492
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It looks like it might be an error in the FCPXML, have you tried both V1.7 and V1.8 XMLs?
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5 years 4 months ago #6491
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wrong xml from fcpx?
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